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  Hello from the other side

  by Theburstbubble in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  well it's been 18 months since i left the witnesses.

  my goodness what can i say?

  well let's start from the beginning.... 1) i am happy, yes i am (i know im not meant to be as the jw's would like to believe).

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  BB-

  I always find it so very satisfying to learn of other souls freed to savor their own wonderful life- not the stifling confines the watchtower guards - best to you all!
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  Witnesses and the UN Declaration of Human Rights.

  by gonzobear in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm researching a piece on the witnesses, as an ex born in witness now writer, and would really appreciate any thoughts.. as most of you all know the witnesses rely heavily on article 20 of the above act - everyone has the right to peaceful assembly and association.

  but they also contravene several other articles of the act with their policy of disfellowshipping, causing mental distress to people who leave, they split up the family - a protected unit- and don't allow members to vote or to partake in national service, things protected by the act.

  here's the link to the act, read it though and see if you can spot things witnesses aren't allowed to do that every human should be allowed to do freely - .

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  Gonzo-

  A willing member of a church that practices shunning is not a human rights victim if he/she becomes shunned for the reasons and in the manner prescribed by their chosen religion.

  Acknowledged membership and affinity with any religious lunatics gives said lunatics tacit consent to exercise their ecclesiastic authority over you in complete accord with whatever idiocy you yourself accept and espouse as a member of that group.

  "Quitting Quietly" is an approach that I have promoted here for some time for the following reasons:

  No one can be denied their right to leave any religion, for any reason and at any time they chose. You are not required to write a letter, to explain your reasons nor to consent to further internal scrutiny or counsel from the group or its representatives.

  Send a dated letter to a lawyer or other trusted outsider, stating that you have terminated (past tense) your faith and belief in the group and its religious activities. NEVER allow the elders to convene any type of meeting with you for any reason - the Shepherd the Flock book states that to meet with elders is "... to thus acknowledge the congregations authority over the person."

  You are now free, and any further actions taken will be a violation of your right to religious freedom - a right you have already expressed by leaving.

  The surest way to show you value your rights and freedoms is to exercise them.

  Research the case of ex-Mormon Norman Hancock to see how effective this is.
  
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  Excellent Conversation At Literature Trolley

  by cofty in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday my wife and i enjoyed one of our regular days out at edinburgh - movie, lunch, walk, meal etc.. in the late afternoon while mrs cofty went shopping i had an hour at the excellent museum of scotland and arranged to meet up outside the national gallery on princes street.

  on my way back i saw the jw trolley was at the usual spot on the royal mile.

  there was an older man and a young woman standing well back trying hard to look inconspicuous.

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  Thank you Cofty.

  Thank you Blondie.
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  Judgment handed down by Court of Appeal in legal challenge to Charity Commission inquiry opened in 2014

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  this is good news.

  the wt have lost in their attempt to stop the uk charity commission's inquiry into their affairs.

  however, the wt is still digging in their heels about turning documents over to the charity commission.https://www.gov.uk/government/news/court-of-appeal-gives-judgment-in-court-case-by-jehovahs-witness-charityjudgment handed down by court of appeal in legal challenge to charity commission inquiry opened in 2014.today, the court of appeal handed down its judgment regarding the commission’s statutory inquiry, opened in 2014, into the watch tower bible and tract society of britain (the leading jehovah’s witness charity in the uk).

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  Must the complaints come only from UK citizens?
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  Survey: How long were you in the cult vs what year you were baptized

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi people,.

  i want as much data as possible on the effect of the internet on the time captured by the cult.. please answer the three following questions about yourself or about someone you know (for example, if your parents or grandparents were jw's and left).

  1) were you raised as a jw, or did you convert?.

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  1, converted

  2.1974

  3.1988

  14 wasted years
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  JW related collective nouns

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. humour

  english is a great language, especially when it comes to collective nouns.

  a "murder" of crows is just fantastic as is a "mob" of meerkats.

  a "colony" of ants, a "pride" of lions.

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  "A crush of counselors."

  ks. 2.10/16 A crush (2 or more) of counselors is to be formed when handling any case involving thinking, kindness or beards ( brothers only) . One of the crush should be assigned the responsibility to amass the necessary records , forms and reports to impress the CO and HQ.
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  JW related collective nouns

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. humour

  english is a great language, especially when it comes to collective nouns.

  a "murder" of crows is just fantastic as is a "mob" of meerkats.

  a "colony" of ants, a "pride" of lions.

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  "A stifle of opinions"

  stifle : suppress, smother, restrain, check, curb, silence

  noun - "The absurd Watchtower study evoked a wide stifle of opinions among the apathetic congregation"
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  Circuit visit elders meeting

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  first some context to this post.

  historically the elders meeting with the circuit overseer has had the following format : outline for meeting including ministerial servants then, after they have been dismissed, discussion of local issues.

  the last visit there was an additional outline for the elders only, the notorious "gender blurring" discussion.. you might wonder what is being discussed this time round, so here you are:.

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  Onlyest thing I remember from CO visit elders-meetings was Dan Skinner going to lengths to ensure that the cheques had Watchtower spelled correctly- capital W- not two words- no hyphen- do not hold up the cash!
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  Why dont you go to the memorial?

  by atomant in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  l guess we all have our own reasons and thought it would give insight to others considering going to reconsider and not go.

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  I sleep easy knowing that my presence will be doubly covered by two guys who have zero interest in the stupid cult their silly old mother is nuts about. Yearly attenders - they will never again show up on the count after the old lady passes.

  There must be hundreds of thousands just like them - coerced, guilted and badgered into burning good gas just to have their heads counted by nitwits.
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  Don't Accept the Blame for Being Shunned

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  our family and friends blame us for the fact that they shun us.

  imagine an abusive husband who threatened his wife that if she leaves him he will hunt her down and kill her.

  eventually she finds the courage to leave and he carries out his threat.

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  We created their problem that triggered the shunning -by refusing to believe or teach their falsehoods.

  We deny their solution by never returning to believing and teaching what we know to be false.